The word “firmament” is not a water canopy.
Hey Caleb, I never understood that reading until today. Thanks!
while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.
jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.
1. no scriptural concept of original sin.
The word “firmament” is not a water canopy.
Hey Caleb, I never understood that reading until today. Thanks!
blondies comments you will not hear at the 07-12-2015 wt study (fight satan)(may 15, 2015 issue).
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/.
the wts usually says the devils main and sometimes only target are the anointed remnant and the other sheep are collateral damage because of their association with them..
I have actually heard a JW offering a public prayer at the meeting once where he said "We thank you Jehovah that we are not like the people in the world..."!!
LOL!
(Luke 18:11) . . .The Pharisee stood and began to pray these things to himself, ‘O God, I thank you I am not as the rest of men. . .
while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.
jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.
1. no scriptural concept of original sin.
I have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about Scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the Bible (at least the Hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the Jewish Scriptures themselves.
Caleb,
Why were the Apocrypha: 1 and 2 Maccabees, Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), Wisdom (Wisdom of Solomon), Baruch, Tobit, Judith, and additions to Daniel and Esther accepted by Jewish believers as part of the Hebrew Bible?
while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.
jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.
1. no scriptural concept of original sin.
Thanks Caleb, I've been learning a lot from your posts. And I've been passing alone the information to some JW friends. It's freaking them out. But making them think.
I'm going to see them today and freak them out some more when I relate the point you made about the animals dying, again, and again, and again, in the Exodus account. I read that so many times and never saw that.
well, once again my "friend" has shared their notes with me from the latest co visit.
besides the usual 1914 assertions/ world getting worse all the time/ our day is the worst of all time nonsense, the co mentioned some interesting things.
number one won't surprise you.
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
More people are dying from the complications of obesity today than at any time throughout history... just like the bible predicted!world getting worse all the time/ OUR DAY is the worst of all time
sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.
this happened more than one year ago.
i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.
Me personally, since I'm in a crazy foreign country where money rules, I would pay a couple of coyotes to visit the elders at 2 A.M.
sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.
this happened more than one year ago.
i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.
opusdei1972
But I think that these elder are very stupid for what they are doing. Indeed, in Peru the Police is also very corrupt. I doubt that the branch office is behind this stupid tactic, but may be the elders are being advised by the Circuit Overseer. …. knows nothing about the legal consequences.
I believe you hit it on the nail. These idiots have no idea of the repercussions an incident like this could bring on them. I have a former sister in law who started sleeping around with several men and then started living with one of them. When the elders demanded she attend a judicial committee, she got a lawyer who threaten them and the Society.
The WT Society gave orders to the elders to leave her alone. If she ever wanted to come back then they could deal with her then. But hands off for the moment.
So I know they are idiots who don’t know what they are doing.
sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.
this happened more than one year ago.
i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.
I don’t know what Latin country you are in, but I am in Juarez Mexico and the Elders don’t dare do something like that here. All we have to do here is give the police a couple of hundred dollars and you will never hear from those elders again.
Even in the U.S. elders will not hound a publisher like they are doing to your sister. They just want to meet with her to formally disfellowship her. She needs to stay far away from them and use whatever legal means she can in that country, to protect herself.
They don't play fair, she shouldn't either.
well there are lots of reason for sure, denial, delusion, wishful thinking, ego maniac, infantile understanding of ancient writings, satanophobia, xenophobia, out of touch with reality, limited choices scrapping the bottom of the barrel,and many more.. listen to this ted talk and see if you can pick out something that helps explain why these guys are such ass holes:.
organizations are often run according to the superchicken model, where the value is placed on star employees who outperform others.
and yet, this isnt what drives the most high-achieving teams.
fukitol
This is like calling the executives running cigarette manufacuring companies stupid.
They're not stupid, they're amoral, unethical GENIUSES.
It's the stupid brainwashed 8 millions idolators that adore them and obsequiously hang on every utterance from their white-washed mouths who are the stupid suckers, in the same way that untold millions of cigarette smokers are the suckers.
You may have a point. What better way to prove you're a genius than by continuing to keep an organization alive that is made up of nothing but obvious lies. It's like selling the Brooklyn Bridge over and over and over to the same guy.
it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?
the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.
how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?